Monday, 28 December 2009

A Follower of Zakir Naik condenming Muhammad Sheikh

First of all, Zakir Naik is one of my favorite Muslim scholars. I also found other Muslims claimed that he was a Kafir (unbeliever), just like what happened to me when 'Abangsheikh' claimed I was a Kafir in another our dialog which I haven't posted it in my blog.

AbangSyeikh wrote:

Tetapi golongan Anti Hadis @ InkarusSunnah @ Inkar As-Sunah sudah pasti terkeluar dari Islam atau murtad kerana kelancangan mereka menolak hadis dan menolak berhukum dengan hadis/sunnah Nabi s.a.w. Si Ariji membawa isu bahawa aku mengatakan dia "BODOH", sebenarnya usaha Ariji ini hanyalah untuk menutup isu yang lebih besar dan sangat besar iaitu kafirnya dan murtadnya orangnya menolak berhukum dengan hadis; yang ini tidak pulak dia jadikan isu. Kepada Ariji, aku nasihat kau supaya segera bertaubat atau kau ni patut dibawa kemuka pengadilan untuk dibicarakan kerana menghina Nabi s.a.w. dan menghina Islam dan membawa ketegangan kepada penganut agama Islam. Kalau lah negeriku ini benar-benar melaksanakan syariat/hudud Allah, siaplah golongan yang menghina Nabi s.a.w. itu. 
Mad Mad Mad

They, the people that confidently saying other Muslims as Kafir as if they know everything about Islam. Back to the main topic.

It started when a Muslim gave me a warning about Muhammad Sheikh. Here is our dialog so far.


iipctv is not a good place to learn about Islam. The speaker does not believe in the ahadeeth even though Allah 'azzaa wa jall has said in the Qur'an in many places: "Obey Me and obey My Messenger." Try learning from a masjid or from speakers like Yusuf Estes, Zakir Naik, and so-on and so-forth. The iipctv guy takes advantage of people who do not know Arabic to change the meaning of the Qur'an. If you look at his audiences they are all non-Arabs, because anyone who knew Arabic would never listen to him.


I really concern about 'obeying the messenger' but the problem here is with the Hadith Collections themselves which having so many contradictions. 

Generally, my mind is open to listen to any lectures. For Zakir Naik, he usually always refer to other past scholars in giving answers for difficult questions about Islam. Something that's less so far I found in M. Sheikh.

I much take caution in Hadiths, due to what's happening in some places, for example such as 'honor killing' which I couldn't find satisfied verses from the Koran to support that deed. In contrast, I found a very high-level support in 'The Hadith' for the deed.


The only way you are going to find contradictions in the Ahadeeth is if you do not take from the authentic ones. When scholars check a hadith for its authenticity they check it against the other ahadeeth. If it is found to be contradictory then they lower its grade. Zakir Naik for example has no problem with the ahadeeth. Nor do Yusuf Estes, Khalid Yasin, or any other of the famous speakers.

Honor killing is forbidden in Islam, and it is only a cultural thing. I do not know how you get it out of the ahadeeth, because the ahadeeth are clear on the issue:

al-Bukhaari (6355) narrated from Ibn Umar (may Allaah be pleased with him) that the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: The believer will continue to be encompassed by the mercy of Allaah so long as he does not shed blood that it is forbidden to shed.

The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) has explained to us the reasons for which it becomes permissible to shed this blood. He said: It is not permissible to shed the blood of a Muslim who bears witness that there is no god but Allaah and that I am the Messenger of Allaah except in three cases: a life for a life (murder), zina of one of who is previously-married (adultery), and the one who changes his religion and forsakes the jamaaah. Narrated by al-Bukhaari (6370) and Muslim (3175). 

From this it is clear that zina on the part of one who is married is one of the reasons that make it permissible to kill a person, but the zaani (adulterer) cannot be killed unless two conditions are met:

He should be previously-married. The scholars have explained what is meant by previously-married in this case. Zakariya al-Ansaari (may Allaah have mercy on him) said in Asnal-Mataalib (4/128): The previously-married person, whether male or female, is any adult of sound mind who has previously had intercourse within a valid marriage. End quote. Shaykh Ibn Uthaymeen (may Allaah have mercy on him) said in al-Sharh al-Zaad (6/120): There are five conditions for (being described as) previously-married:

1- Intercourse

2- Within a valid marriage

3- Being an adult

4- Being of sound reason

5- Being free (i.e., not a slave). 

End quote.

Ibn Muflih al-Hanbali (may Allaah have mercy on him) said in al-Furoo (6/53): It is haraam for anyone to carry out a hadd punishment except the ruler or his deputy. This is something on which the fuqaha of Islam are unanimously agreed, as was stated in al-Mawsooah al-Fiqhiyyah (5/280)

Something that is important with either the Qur'an or the Ahadeeth is to sit with a Shaykh when you are learning them. The iipctv guy rejects all of the Ahadeeth which means he has no way of knowing that Jumu'ah is on Friday, that 'Isha has four rak'ah, that Hajj has other things besides just going to Makkah involved in it, as well as many other important things. Furthermore, he doesn't even get the Arabic correct in about 90% of what he says, because all he does is try to make up reasons why everything Allah forbade is halal.

For example he confused the words of one Ayah which forbids stealing from the spoils of war to mean that Riba is halal. He is either mentally ill and he should not be taken seriously or he is deliberately trying to misguide people in order to attract fame and fortune. This person did not even study Islam. He just learned how to speak Arabic as a second language and started grabbing the microphone.


The married person who did 'zina' is a adulteress/adulterer.

Do you agree with this?

Now lets look at what Allah said about adultery.

The adulteress and the adulterer, you shall lash each of them with one hundred lashes, and do not let any pity overtake you regarding the system of God if you believe in God and the Last Day. And let a group of the believers witness their punishment.

Now you ask yourself. Do you obey this Law of God or not?

Did The Prophet obey this Law of God?

Where did the law of 'stoning to death' for adultery come from? How did The Prophet get that law?

If Allah has revealed that verse 24:2 to The Prophet, why did he disobey the verse by implying another law?

Furthermore, 'honor killing' members also kill women wearing sexy clothes for the reason of 'forsaking the jamaah'.

Have you ever heard a story of a father killing his daughter for the reason of she influenced much of Western culture?

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